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January 27, 2012

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Reuben

I'm not aware of the MMLOS being used to make decisions in any MN communities yet. I'd love to see some MN examples.

Chris Georges

Hopefully new developments are truly multimodal and solid requirements are in place for this LOS.
http://transportationblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2012/01/snow-job-on-walkable-richardso.html

Allan A. Ennis

MMLOS may have some application in highly urbanized areas such as Manhattan or Pasadena. However, in most areas it is not a realistic approach because it pretends that adequate provision of facilities for other transportation modes will satisfy trip demands, whereas in reality these trips will continue to rely on the automobile due to the existing land use pattern. Use of MMLOS in these areas would mean sacrificing vehicular LOS in the short term and using congestion to force long-term development of a more dense land use pattern suitable for other modes.

Mike Spack

Allan - I agree there are a lot of suburban settings with zero bikes, zero peds, and no transit. I think we're currently in a chicken/egg scenario with suburbs becoming more multi-modal. I'm not advocating treating every situation like we're in Manhattan, but there are small things we can do to prep our infrastructure for a more multi-modal situation without sacrificing much vehicle performance. One of my favorites relates to right turn lanes. They make ped/bike crossings longer, they often have little impact on shortening delay times, yet some engineers reflexively want a right turn lane at every intersection (bigger being better). Also, many jurisdictions still have 12' lane widths as their default, yet there's no evidence that shows they're any better than 11' lanes - so why have the default be narrower to improve bike/ped situations and save money?
Mike

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