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November 29, 2012

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Mike

Cost doesn't just matter to those in developing countries. As an recent graduate unable to obtain full time engineering employment, I can't afford ITE dues. I had to drop my ASCE membership as well. I'm an ITE "fellow" (cheaper in NC) and couldn't afford to go to our NCSITE annual meeting this month. It cost too much, and too many members who's employers pay their way to these conferences forget that those who are unemployed don't have that kind of luxury.

Until I gain fruitful employment in this field, I'm afraid I can't afford the cost of this kind of networking. Which is a shame, because this type of networking is how many people find employment. But what am I supposed to do, take out a loan to pay my dues? Ridiculous.

John S

Mike for President!! You brought up some great points, i.e., $$$ made each year, cost of obtaining trip generation data (FREE!!), and eliminating the hardcopy of the monthly journal. I also agree with your view on OTISS. Way overpriced. Use to use the TRIPGEN software. It was a pretty basic and relatively low cost product. I would interested in hearing the ITE's response to you letter!

RW

As a practicing Traffic Engineer and PTOE I agree 100% with all of your comments. My company really questions the value of my ITE membership when I go to renew it anually.

I think ITE could vastly improve to better support their membership by doing many of the things you mention.

Their website is outdated and painfully slow. When you renew your membership it takes weeks at times for them to mail you receipt of renewal. Why not automate this like all other organizations do?

I have collected more data sets than I can count but have never submitted them to ITE for inclusion in the Trip Gen manuals as there is no incentive. I do agree that the submittal helps my fellow peers, but I have the opinion why provide something to ITE for free that they are in turn going to charge $400+ for.

I tested OTISS and like you said its far to expensive for the benefit it provides. For the cost of it I can pay an intern to create a spreadsheet or Visual Basic program that will do the same thing.

ITE needs to step into reality!

Scot

I agree on essentially all points, ITE is falling behind as its old media bones are slow to adapt to modern needs and connectivity. Pre-internet there were few options for communication among peers other than ITE or direct contact, now there are many (and mostly free).

One other area that may deserve another look is the Transportation Professional Certification Board, which has struck me as a big money maker. Yes, it may be worthwhile to have a national PTOE or PTP certification to supercede a jumble of states doing their own. However in application the actual standard met seems a very low bar (~97% passed on my PTOE test IIRC, it may have changed lately) that implies an excessive interest in people passing rather than making it an achievement. And we still have a jumble with AICP trying to have their own certs. I'll spare you my rant on licensure in general :-)

Jim

Like Mike, I can't justify the dues. Unlike Mike, I have 20 years in the field.

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For the price of it I can pay an intern to make a worksheet or Visible Primary system that will do the same factor.

JF

I agree with Mike completely. I cancelled my ITE membership when my company stopped paying for it. Anymore, it is just an overpriced magazine.

Andrew

I also cannot justify the dues for ITE and ASCE so I stopped my memberships once I started working for a public agency that does not pay my dues. I am a local chapter member, but not with the national associations. I do not see the benefit for myself from paying the national dues.

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